2008 GA Tally Sheet
Marc Comtois
The ProJo provides a helpful list of what passed and what didn't in the General Assembly this session.
PASSED
$6.9 billion state budget
24-hour gambling weekends and holidays
Automatic destruction of certain criminal records
Repeal mandatory minimum drug sentences
Early prison release
Pre-voter registration by teens
Renewable energy bonus to National Grid
Close teen-drinking loophole
Raise age threshold for two-year elderly license renewals
Providence hotel tax break
NOT APPROVED
Minimum wage increase
E-Verify immigration status checks
Mandatory health insurance
Movie studio tax-credit
Landmark hospital merger plan
$12.6 million Ritchie Bros. sales tax-rebate
Legislator health co-shares
Cell phone driving ban
Eliminate straight-party voting
Foreclosure protections for renters
Increasing pollution fines
Voter identification
Medical marijuana dispensaries
A lot of the items, whether passed or not, met their fate based on the budget crunch. And a few elicit an unsurprised, yet exasperated, shake of the head: failure to eliminate straight-party voting, failure to implement voter identification, failure to have legislators kick-in for health insurance,
no E-verify and even the pre-voter registration idea. As
Justin has
observed (warned?), while we can take solace in holding the line, how much of this victory will be fleeting? So don't get too content out there. We've got to keep our eye on 'em, especially after November.
Criminals seem to have quite a lobby on Smith Hill!
Well, looking at Operation: Dollar Bill, I'd say the one demographic in this state most likely to turn to a life of crime IS the General Assembly.
They're just covering their own asses.
Looks like the criminals, and especially the illegals, made out pretty good this year by the good ol GA! How nice for them! I'm sure Rep Almeida is happy his record is gone.
The rich got their way.
The Catholic Church got its way.
Carcieri got his way.
This budget season was about keeping powers, and all those with power hung onto it.
EMT - why do you have to resort to anonymously calling members of the GA "bums"? Don't you have any respect?
Rhody - who is the "rich" and how did they get their way?
Don't fear for the 'poor' Rhody. They'll just move to another, more generous state and lamprey onto THEIR taxpayers.
It's a natural process for parasites.
Rhody, thanks to an appropriate adjustment in our income tax table, the "rich" now get treated the same (no better!) than states around us. That becomes one less negative factor for their moving to or staying in Rhode Island. Why is that a bad thing?
I'm sorry, did somebody say something?
The rich kept their tax break and did not have to share in the budget pain everyone else did. Why the denial?
How will you share in the budget pain rhody?
Rhody,
Let's try again. WHO is the "rich"?
And in terms of their "tax break", please tell us how much the "rich" are paying in taxes versus the "non-rich".
Looking forward to your answers.
Mike, George...are you insisting I must endure more of the state's budget pain than you because I dare question budget decisions that you accept on faith?
But if you want an example, I'll give you one: My household will be getting hit harder for in-state college tuition this fall while the bang for our buck decreases.
I won't even get into driving a car with almost 148,000 miles on it...if that same tax break the rich got was extended to the rest of us peasants, I could think about a younger used car.
"if that same tax break the rich got was extended to the rest of us peasants, I could think about a younger used car."
If the G.A. had more money, what makes you think they would direct it there? In fact, the indications are otherwise. The chips were down this session. As has been pointed out, what was the only budget area that was increased significantly? The judiciary to build an unnecessary courthouse in northern Rhode Island.
[I reserve the right to talk about "pain bearing" at a later time.]
I certainly agree about this new courthouse - debt (and much of it is our own fault through bonds we approved on the ballot)is a big reason we're in this fix.
In the meantime, our infrastructure continues to crumble - I'd much rather see that $88 million go toward fixing or replacing the Pawtucket and Sakonnet River bridges.
rhody, you implied that you had to endure more than others.
The rich kept their tax break and did not have to share in the budget pain everyone else did.
Increased tuitions at state schools will apply to everyone, not just you. Yes, the rich will have to pay the increased cost of school for their kids as well. And those with more valuable cars pay more local property taxes.
Obviously anything that requires more from you (or me) may hurt. Are you suggesting that the state should take as much as is needed to make the "rich" feel equal pain?
While everyone bashes each other over how the state spends its' dwindling tax revenue, I have a stupid question.
What have we done to bring new business to RI and expand the tax base?
Rhody,
We are still waiting for your definition of "rich" and exactly how they got a break.
Then you can tell us why you yourself just don't become "rich" if it soooo easy to do and there are soooo many benefits to being "rich".
By the way, a fella out in Omaha Nebraska by the name of Warren Buffet who many refer to as being rich drove the same old car for years and years and years. Also, I've NEVER purchased a care with LESS than 60,000 miles on it.
So, I am not sure what your point is with respect to owning a car with 148,000 miles on it. It sounds to me like you are being wise with your money and therefore on your way to being "rich".
Lastly, last time I checked, the "rich" have to pay for in-state tuition just like you do. But they probably don't get financial aid.
The rest of us pessants should've gotten the same tax break the rich did. George and Mike, I apologize if my plea for tax equality offends your tender sensibilities.
I'm still waiting for the people who got that tax break to bring new business to Rhode Island and expand the tax base. However, I'm not holding my breath.
rhody, I take it from your sarcastic response you have no intention of defining "tax equality". How about this? Would you favor a flat tax to ensure everyone pays the same percentage of what he or she earns? That's equal, right?
Rhody,
Once again,we are STILL waiting for your definition of "rich".
While you're at it, tell us how much the "rich" pay in taxes and compare that to what the "non-rich" pay ...be specific.
And then explain the "tax break" that the "rich" recieved.
Boys, if all you do is ask the same questions over and over, you obviously have no interest in discussing this - no answer can satisfy you. I think the rest of the party has tuned out on this tiresome thread (and so will I).
Rhody,
Answer the question of how you define "rich" and how specifically they got a break, and we'll be happy to stop asking the question.
If you make nutty assertions, you should at least be willing to explain / back them up with something more than cliches and broad brush comments.
Once again, we look forward to your answers, as opposed to more dodging with Bob Walsh-like non-answers.
Criminals seem to have quite a lobby on Smith Hill!
Posted by: mikeinRI at June 22, 2008 12:09 PMWell, looking at Operation: Dollar Bill, I'd say the one demographic in this state most likely to turn to a life of crime IS the General Assembly.
They're just covering their own asses.
Posted by: Greg at June 22, 2008 12:12 PMLooks like the criminals, and especially the illegals, made out pretty good this year by the good ol GA! How nice for them! I'm sure Rep Almeida is happy his record is gone.
Posted by: Donna C at June 22, 2008 12:47 PMVOTE THE BUMS OUT.
Posted by: EMT at June 22, 2008 3:05 PMThe rich got their way.
Posted by: rhody at June 22, 2008 5:21 PMThe Catholic Church got its way.
Carcieri got his way.
This budget season was about keeping powers, and all those with power hung onto it.
EMT - why do you have to resort to anonymously calling members of the GA "bums"? Don't you have any respect?
Rhody - who is the "rich" and how did they get their way?
Posted by: George Elbow at June 22, 2008 5:32 PMDon't fear for the 'poor' Rhody. They'll just move to another, more generous state and lamprey onto THEIR taxpayers.
It's a natural process for parasites.
Posted by: Greg at June 22, 2008 5:33 PMRhody, thanks to an appropriate adjustment in our income tax table, the "rich" now get treated the same (no better!) than states around us. That becomes one less negative factor for their moving to or staying in Rhode Island. Why is that a bad thing?
Posted by: Monique at June 22, 2008 8:07 PMI'm sorry, did somebody say something?
Posted by: EMT at June 22, 2008 8:57 PMThe rich kept their tax break and did not have to share in the budget pain everyone else did. Why the denial?
Posted by: rhody at June 23, 2008 2:57 PMHow will you share in the budget pain rhody?
Posted by: mikeinRI at June 23, 2008 3:30 PMRhody,
Let's try again. WHO is the "rich"?
And in terms of their "tax break", please tell us how much the "rich" are paying in taxes versus the "non-rich".
Looking forward to your answers.
Posted by: George Elbow at June 23, 2008 7:04 PMMike, George...are you insisting I must endure more of the state's budget pain than you because I dare question budget decisions that you accept on faith?
Posted by: rhody at June 24, 2008 1:52 AMBut if you want an example, I'll give you one: My household will be getting hit harder for in-state college tuition this fall while the bang for our buck decreases.
I won't even get into driving a car with almost 148,000 miles on it...if that same tax break the rich got was extended to the rest of us peasants, I could think about a younger used car.
"if that same tax break the rich got was extended to the rest of us peasants, I could think about a younger used car."
If the G.A. had more money, what makes you think they would direct it there? In fact, the indications are otherwise. The chips were down this session. As has been pointed out, what was the only budget area that was increased significantly? The judiciary to build an unnecessary courthouse in northern Rhode Island.
[I reserve the right to talk about "pain bearing" at a later time.]
Posted by: Monique at June 24, 2008 7:58 AMI certainly agree about this new courthouse - debt (and much of it is our own fault through bonds we approved on the ballot)is a big reason we're in this fix.
Posted by: rhody at June 24, 2008 11:05 AMIn the meantime, our infrastructure continues to crumble - I'd much rather see that $88 million go toward fixing or replacing the Pawtucket and Sakonnet River bridges.
rhody, you implied that you had to endure more than others.
Increased tuitions at state schools will apply to everyone, not just you. Yes, the rich will have to pay the increased cost of school for their kids as well. And those with more valuable cars pay more local property taxes.Obviously anything that requires more from you (or me) may hurt. Are you suggesting that the state should take as much as is needed to make the "rich" feel equal pain?
Posted by: mikeinRI at June 24, 2008 11:52 AMWhile everyone bashes each other over how the state spends its' dwindling tax revenue, I have a stupid question.
What have we done to bring new business to RI and expand the tax base?
Posted by: Anthony at June 24, 2008 2:34 PMRhody,
We are still waiting for your definition of "rich" and exactly how they got a break.
Then you can tell us why you yourself just don't become "rich" if it soooo easy to do and there are soooo many benefits to being "rich".
By the way, a fella out in Omaha Nebraska by the name of Warren Buffet who many refer to as being rich drove the same old car for years and years and years. Also, I've NEVER purchased a care with LESS than 60,000 miles on it.
So, I am not sure what your point is with respect to owning a car with 148,000 miles on it. It sounds to me like you are being wise with your money and therefore on your way to being "rich".
Lastly, last time I checked, the "rich" have to pay for in-state tuition just like you do. But they probably don't get financial aid.
Posted by: George Elbow at June 24, 2008 8:50 PMThe rest of us pessants should've gotten the same tax break the rich did. George and Mike, I apologize if my plea for tax equality offends your tender sensibilities.
Posted by: rhody at June 25, 2008 12:33 AMI'm still waiting for the people who got that tax break to bring new business to Rhode Island and expand the tax base. However, I'm not holding my breath.
rhody, I take it from your sarcastic response you have no intention of defining "tax equality". How about this? Would you favor a flat tax to ensure everyone pays the same percentage of what he or she earns? That's equal, right?
Posted by: mikeinRI at June 25, 2008 1:51 PMRhody,
Once again,we are STILL waiting for your definition of "rich".
While you're at it, tell us how much the "rich" pay in taxes and compare that to what the "non-rich" pay ...be specific.
And then explain the "tax break" that the "rich" recieved.
Posted by: George Elbow at June 25, 2008 6:59 PMBoys, if all you do is ask the same questions over and over, you obviously have no interest in discussing this - no answer can satisfy you. I think the rest of the party has tuned out on this tiresome thread (and so will I).
Posted by: rhody at June 26, 2008 11:27 AMRhody,
Answer the question of how you define "rich" and how specifically they got a break, and we'll be happy to stop asking the question.
If you make nutty assertions, you should at least be willing to explain / back them up with something more than cliches and broad brush comments.
Once again, we look forward to your answers, as opposed to more dodging with Bob Walsh-like non-answers.
Posted by: George Elbow at June 27, 2008 10:38 PM