The few jobs that remain and are being advertised must be the one's Bob Walsh saved, as he noted in an earlier post that he hasn't created any jobs, but he "has saved thousands of RI jobs". LOL.
Fortunately, there are some jobs that Council 94 members (and other Union members to follow) can apply to when they get their Entitlement-minded, look a gift-horse-the-mouth heads handed to them in the coming weeks. Can't wait!
I wonder if these fools will tell their prospective employers BEFORE the interview or AFTER the interview (assuming these leeches could even garner an interview) that they require near free health-care, a 35 hour "work" week, a Guaranteed Pension after "working" a mere 20 to 25 years that grows by 3% per year starting in year 3 and the ability to accumulate and get paid "sick time" when they retire, not to mention a Union steward and a grievance process to field their frequent bouts with uncontrolled whining?
Oh to be a fly on the wall when reality hits these public-tit suckers in the face. Someone, quick, break out the Popcorn ...this is going to be absolutely entertaining.
Maybe Segal's 50 plus volenteers can tell us a thing or two about whining...
Segal posted this on RI's Future (His one sided blog)
Thanks, team
by: David Segal
Thu Jul 10, 2008 at 07:00:00 AM EDT
Petitions to get on the ballot are due in tomorrow, when we'll gain a more complete sense of who's actually running for what.
But I just wanted to take a moment to thank my volunteers, and constituents. More than 50 volunteers and I (25 last night alone!) have knocked on doors in District 2 over the last 10 days, collecting nearly 500 signatures.
As of last evening, we'd officially hit the door of every voter in the district (save some of the high rises, to which it's harder to gain access). And we're going to be out again tonight. And tomorrow, and the next day.
I can be a bit of a whiner, but there are worse ways to spend a summer. And perhaps my opponent and I can agree to a brief armistice, and hit the beach together for a weekend or two.
If you wanna help out, we'd love to have you. More info over here.
David Segal :: Thanks, team
But when I clicked over to http://www.sec.state.ri.us/candidates/search/?set_language=en&pOffice=REPRESENTATIVE+IN+GENERAL+ASSEMBLY&officeSearch=Search
His claims fall about 411 signitures short of the 500 he claims... Officially, he recieved 89 sigs...
I think those volunteers should be let go... what do you think?
George,
You know, you really have a point there. A DVD of job interviews with prospective private sector employers by former career RI state government unionized employees (teachers included) could turn out to be a best seller. However, whether it would be classified as "tragedy" or "comedy" is an open issue.
In all seriousness, I agree with you that they don't have a clue, as demonstrated by their comments (and some by their leaders, too) both here and elsewhere. While we can cynically laugh at it, I think it is only a symptom of a much larger problem, that goes beyond RI and indeed beyond the United States. All around the world, the gulf has widened between the deal given to unionized public sector employees and the private sector taxpayers who pay for their salaries and benefits, and enjoy the rude service and low productivity they too often get in exchange. And that includes a growing gulf between unionized private sector employees and their public sector brethren.
The sad part of the story is the public sector unionistas inability or unwillingness to face reality. Some public sector union members blame the anger they see as either a symptom of a problem that could be cured through more private sector unionization (somehow, the existence and lesson of all those successful Toyota and Honda plants in the U.S. and all those failing GM and Ford plants in the same country has escaped them).
Others basically say that we should all tighten our belts to meet their demands because the work they do is morally superior to what we do in the private sector. Or perhaps just raise taxes on the evil rich (haven't seen a public sector union comment yet about the implications of the latest IRS data on the share of taxes paid by different income categories).
And, particularly in places like RI and New Jersey, the final approach is to follow the Sopranos strategy, and point out that since they have the votes, and can cause alotta trouble for us who don't, we should just go along to gettalong if we know what's good for us.
Sadly, none of these seem to be long term winning strategies. As a result, I agree with you that more and more public sector unionistas will likely be getting the (nasty) surprise of their lives when they go in for their first interview with a potential private sector employer. And even if they get the job, there will undoubtedly be a whole series of nasty surprises thereafter, as they find out what work in the private sector is really like.
On the other hand, the vehemence with which they are fighting any and all change, and their anger and rage at its very suggestion (much less assertions of its necessity) also imply that they know how they'd fare in the private sector, and how important it is for them to avoid having to take (or being forced to take) this fateful step.
I don't know about you, but I would really think long and hard before hiring a hardcore public sector union type -- I imagine it would just be too divisive for my company. And in the current economic environment, that's the last thing we need.
So we are undoubtedly in for some interesting times.
Rhody,
Think about it like a Rose bush, or perhaps a Rhododendron (pun intended).
Sometimes you've to prune the thing in order to save it and allow it to grow more healthy.
Now with a Rose bush, you prune it delicately with scissor like snippets.
With the RI Public Unions, I recommend something more substantial, like an Ax or a chainsaw.
I really need work badly... just part-time, but I am hoping to build up a business welking, feeding and playing with people's cats and dogs, other animals and fish (can you walk a fish? How do you get the leash to stay on?)
Also watering plants. I am eager to work for an honest dollar.
Really, folks, it would keep me off the Internet and blogging... which should make most of you so happy!
BTW, isn't an "anchor rising" the sign of a ship about to sail away?
Just posing the question.
Richard, needing sleep and work, in the lovely environmentally pure Ocean State.
The few jobs that remain and are being advertised must be the one's Bob Walsh saved, as he noted in an earlier post that he hasn't created any jobs, but he "has saved thousands of RI jobs". LOL.
Fortunately, there are some jobs that Council 94 members (and other Union members to follow) can apply to when they get their Entitlement-minded, look a gift-horse-the-mouth heads handed to them in the coming weeks. Can't wait!
I wonder if these fools will tell their prospective employers BEFORE the interview or AFTER the interview (assuming these leeches could even garner an interview) that they require near free health-care, a 35 hour "work" week, a Guaranteed Pension after "working" a mere 20 to 25 years that grows by 3% per year starting in year 3 and the ability to accumulate and get paid "sick time" when they retire, not to mention a Union steward and a grievance process to field their frequent bouts with uncontrolled whining?
Oh to be a fly on the wall when reality hits these public-tit suckers in the face. Someone, quick, break out the Popcorn ...this is going to be absolutely entertaining.
Posted by: George Elbow at July 27, 2008 6:19 PMMaybe Segal's 50 plus volenteers can tell us a thing or two about whining...
Segal posted this on RI's Future (His one sided blog)
Thanks, team
by: David Segal
Thu Jul 10, 2008 at 07:00:00 AM EDT
Petitions to get on the ballot are due in tomorrow, when we'll gain a more complete sense of who's actually running for what.
But I just wanted to take a moment to thank my volunteers, and constituents. More than 50 volunteers and I (25 last night alone!) have knocked on doors in District 2 over the last 10 days, collecting nearly 500 signatures.
As of last evening, we'd officially hit the door of every voter in the district (save some of the high rises, to which it's harder to gain access). And we're going to be out again tonight. And tomorrow, and the next day.
I can be a bit of a whiner, but there are worse ways to spend a summer. And perhaps my opponent and I can agree to a brief armistice, and hit the beach together for a weekend or two.
If you wanna help out, we'd love to have you. More info over here.
David Segal :: Thanks, team
But when I clicked over to http://www.sec.state.ri.us/candidates/search/?set_language=en&pOffice=REPRESENTATIVE+IN+GENERAL+ASSEMBLY&officeSearch=Search
His claims fall about 411 signitures short of the 500 he claims... Officially, he recieved 89 sigs...
I think those volunteers should be let go... what do you think?
Posted by: mathersknows at July 27, 2008 7:40 PMGeorge,
You know, you really have a point there. A DVD of job interviews with prospective private sector employers by former career RI state government unionized employees (teachers included) could turn out to be a best seller. However, whether it would be classified as "tragedy" or "comedy" is an open issue.
In all seriousness, I agree with you that they don't have a clue, as demonstrated by their comments (and some by their leaders, too) both here and elsewhere. While we can cynically laugh at it, I think it is only a symptom of a much larger problem, that goes beyond RI and indeed beyond the United States. All around the world, the gulf has widened between the deal given to unionized public sector employees and the private sector taxpayers who pay for their salaries and benefits, and enjoy the rude service and low productivity they too often get in exchange. And that includes a growing gulf between unionized private sector employees and their public sector brethren.
The sad part of the story is the public sector unionistas inability or unwillingness to face reality. Some public sector union members blame the anger they see as either a symptom of a problem that could be cured through more private sector unionization (somehow, the existence and lesson of all those successful Toyota and Honda plants in the U.S. and all those failing GM and Ford plants in the same country has escaped them).
Others basically say that we should all tighten our belts to meet their demands because the work they do is morally superior to what we do in the private sector. Or perhaps just raise taxes on the evil rich (haven't seen a public sector union comment yet about the implications of the latest IRS data on the share of taxes paid by different income categories).
And, particularly in places like RI and New Jersey, the final approach is to follow the Sopranos strategy, and point out that since they have the votes, and can cause alotta trouble for us who don't, we should just go along to gettalong if we know what's good for us.
Sadly, none of these seem to be long term winning strategies. As a result, I agree with you that more and more public sector unionistas will likely be getting the (nasty) surprise of their lives when they go in for their first interview with a potential private sector employer. And even if they get the job, there will undoubtedly be a whole series of nasty surprises thereafter, as they find out what work in the private sector is really like.
On the other hand, the vehemence with which they are fighting any and all change, and their anger and rage at its very suggestion (much less assertions of its necessity) also imply that they know how they'd fare in the private sector, and how important it is for them to avoid having to take (or being forced to take) this fateful step.
I don't know about you, but I would really think long and hard before hiring a hardcore public sector union type -- I imagine it would just be too divisive for my company. And in the current economic environment, that's the last thing we need.
So we are undoubtedly in for some interesting times.
Posted by: John at July 27, 2008 8:35 PMSo a higher unemployment rate is the way to get Rhode Island back on its feet?
Posted by: rhody at July 27, 2008 11:24 PMThat's the impression I get from reading the above post.
Rhody,
Think about it like a Rose bush, or perhaps a Rhododendron (pun intended).
Sometimes you've to prune the thing in order to save it and allow it to grow more healthy.
Now with a Rose bush, you prune it delicately with scissor like snippets.
With the RI Public Unions, I recommend something more substantial, like an Ax or a chainsaw.
Posted by: George Elbow at July 28, 2008 7:15 AMI really need work badly... just part-time, but I am hoping to build up a business welking, feeding and playing with people's cats and dogs, other animals and fish (can you walk a fish? How do you get the leash to stay on?)
Also watering plants. I am eager to work for an honest dollar.
Really, folks, it would keep me off the Internet and blogging... which should make most of you so happy!
BTW, isn't an "anchor rising" the sign of a ship about to sail away?
Just posing the question.
Richard, needing sleep and work, in the lovely environmentally pure Ocean State.
Posted by: Richard at July 29, 2008 6:09 AM