Reich is just spewing the union / Democrat "company line."
"Unions created the middle class" is one of the myths that unions use to sell themselves to the public and (especially) to prospective members.
So too with the "union members make more than non-union workers" myth. While certainly true in the competition-less public sector, it is not true in the private sector, at least not over the long term.
One can distort the market for a while, and in monopoly situations for an extended period of time.
Just look at the UAW and/or the non-offshoreable airline industry. Eventually the market adjusts union compensation through job loss and/or bankruptcy.
Just ask the hundreds of thousands of former UAW members watching unemployed from Michigan as new non-union plants are being built and hiring thousands of workers in the UAW-free Southeast.
Or just ask the thousands of non-offshorable airline pilots who lost their union negotiated pensions and took pay cuts in post-9/11 bankruptcies.
One of the real problems, as illustrated in the link above, is the fact that capital has been hoarded into massive stagnant stockpiles, interrupting the free flow of currency that is needed for a smoothly functioning economy and the nourishment of burgeoning enterprises.
Capital, like water, must be free flowing and present in adequate amounts over the whole economic cropland, in order for new businesses to germinate, take root and grow.
People need stores of capital in order to start businesses, and the destruction of real wages in America, combined with rising costs of living, have made it all but impossible for average people to accumulate the necessary stores of capital, forcing them to rely on predatory bank loans, and the compound interest on such loans financially chokes new small businesses to death.
Break up the huge accumulations of stagnant capital, and allow the money to flow back through the system, and we'll see people accumulate the necessary amounts of money and necessary free time to create the businesses that will secure our nations future.
Money is merely a medium of exchange... hoarding vast quantities of the medium of exchange society needs to conduct business, far beyond ones own needs, is immoral, and is one of the main phenomena destroying Americas economic prospects.
Attacking union members for wanting to hold firm in one of the last bastions of decent wages, benefits and working conditions is not a solution.
Breaking up the huge non-productive pools of stagnant capital is one crucial part of the solution.
If you really want to change things for the better, that's where you should start.
Good point. We're in a real pickle in this country. Decades of real wage shrinkage and uncontrolled wealth accumulation by those at the top have created a possibly deadly imbalance.
Here's one possible solution on the table:
http://newsblog.projo.com/2009/02/ri-tax-panel-vo.html#445734
To really suggest an informed solution, I'd have to look at the states budget and financials. Do you know where I can find them online?
Also, the details of our tax structure?
If we really want people to understand these issues, and the need for corporate income tax cuts, we need to do a better job of presenting the information to them in ways they can understand.
The ProJo does a mediocre job of that at best, never taking steps to outline, in detail, exactly how RI's corporate tax structure and regulations are so burdensome and uncompetitive compared to other states.
We could probably also benefit from some very detailed and high powered economic analysis software, to run projections and scenarios, and post them online.
Reich is just spewing the union / Democrat "company line."
"Unions created the middle class" is one of the myths that unions use to sell themselves to the public and (especially) to prospective members.
So too with the "union members make more than non-union workers" myth. While certainly true in the competition-less public sector, it is not true in the private sector, at least not over the long term.
One can distort the market for a while, and in monopoly situations for an extended period of time.
Just look at the UAW and/or the non-offshoreable airline industry. Eventually the market adjusts union compensation through job loss and/or bankruptcy.
Just ask the hundreds of thousands of former UAW members watching unemployed from Michigan as new non-union plants are being built and hiring thousands of workers in the UAW-free Southeast.
Or just ask the thousands of non-offshorable airline pilots who lost their union negotiated pensions and took pay cuts in post-9/11 bankruptcies.
Posted by: Tom W at February 4, 2009 12:18 PMPerhaps this is the real problem:
http://www.mindmined.com/public_library/nonfiction/david_f_feudalism_aka_capitalism.html
Posted by: dude at February 4, 2009 5:51 PMOne of the real problems, as illustrated in the link above, is the fact that capital has been hoarded into massive stagnant stockpiles, interrupting the free flow of currency that is needed for a smoothly functioning economy and the nourishment of burgeoning enterprises.
Capital, like water, must be free flowing and present in adequate amounts over the whole economic cropland, in order for new businesses to germinate, take root and grow.
People need stores of capital in order to start businesses, and the destruction of real wages in America, combined with rising costs of living, have made it all but impossible for average people to accumulate the necessary stores of capital, forcing them to rely on predatory bank loans, and the compound interest on such loans financially chokes new small businesses to death.
Break up the huge accumulations of stagnant capital, and allow the money to flow back through the system, and we'll see people accumulate the necessary amounts of money and necessary free time to create the businesses that will secure our nations future.
Money is merely a medium of exchange... hoarding vast quantities of the medium of exchange society needs to conduct business, far beyond ones own needs, is immoral, and is one of the main phenomena destroying Americas economic prospects.
Attacking union members for wanting to hold firm in one of the last bastions of decent wages, benefits and working conditions is not a solution.
Breaking up the huge non-productive pools of stagnant capital is one crucial part of the solution.
If you really want to change things for the better, that's where you should start.
Posted by: dude at February 4, 2009 6:03 PMI more or less agree that the solution is to keep capital (and power) from collecting in one spot, but I note that you haven't actually presented a solution.
Posted by: Justin Katz at February 4, 2009 7:15 PMGood point. We're in a real pickle in this country. Decades of real wage shrinkage and uncontrolled wealth accumulation by those at the top have created a possibly deadly imbalance.
Here's one possible solution on the table:
http://newsblog.projo.com/2009/02/ri-tax-panel-vo.html#445734
To really suggest an informed solution, I'd have to look at the states budget and financials. Do you know where I can find them online?
Also, the details of our tax structure?
If we really want people to understand these issues, and the need for corporate income tax cuts, we need to do a better job of presenting the information to them in ways they can understand.
The ProJo does a mediocre job of that at best, never taking steps to outline, in detail, exactly how RI's corporate tax structure and regulations are so burdensome and uncompetitive compared to other states.
We could probably also benefit from some very detailed and high powered economic analysis software, to run projections and scenarios, and post them online.
Posted by: dude at February 4, 2009 8:39 PM"Breaking up the huge non-productive pools of stagnant capital is one crucial part of the solution."
Isn't that a fancy way of saying "redistribution of wealth"?
Posted by: Monique at February 4, 2009 10:57 PMPerhaps, but it could also indicate policies intended to keep money flowing in the economy encouragement of investment and competition, in other words.
Posted by: Justin Katz at February 4, 2009 11:02 PMThis appears to be the crux of the problem in our economic system:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7757684583209015812&q=&hl=en
Posted by: dude at February 5, 2009 4:13 PM