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June 1, 2009
A Tin Ear Is a Thing to Behold
Approximately three hours after the murder of George Tiller, Nancy Green left this comment on RI Future:
When persuasion and the democratic process did not convince a majority of Kansans to make abortion illegal, they resorted to the bullet. This is terrorism and a subversion of democracy.
About twenty minutes later, this post appeared on Kmareka:
When moral argument, persuasion and the democratic process did not convince a majority of Kansans to make abortion illegal, someone resorted to the bullet ...Any coward can grab a gun and sneak up on an unarmed man. Violent anti-abortion groups have used guns, bombs, threats and deception to try to accomplish what they can not do by peaceful means. This is an act of domestic terrorism.
Clearly, the intent is to tar the "they" whose persuasion and democratic action have not defeated abortion — i.e., pro-lifers. As if to clarify the point, Green returned to the comment section last night to elaborate:
one man pulled the trigger. some vandalized the clinic. many made their careers with hate speech and inciting. who is guilty?
And yet, at 9:21 p.m., the same Kmareka poster was writing scornfully about the rapidity with which pro-life groups "expressed concern that abortion-rights activists would use the occasion to brand the entire anti-abortion movement as extremist."
Internet speed sure is dizzying, but the rate of the process doesn't mean it is outlandish to respond to rhetoric that's already being voiced. I'd note, by the by, that the linked article actually quotes more pro-abortion spokespeople than the pro-life "theys" about whom the article is ostensibly written.
I'd make the much more important point, as well, that no amount of persuasion or democratic process would have empowered a majority of Kansans to make abortion illegal. A handful of federal judges have made sure of that — a reality that only highlights the danger of making political processes unavailable in areas of core disagreement from a central perch in government.
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Think Nancy Green and Kmareka weep when illegal aliens rape and murder American citizens?? THEY are libs and therefore THEY support illegals being in this country so using their "logic" THEY are responsible for the crimes of the illegals are they not?? The "moral blanket" (lol) these libs throw at others is hilarious when considering all the crimes against humanity THEY support on a daily basis all around this world.
Posted by: Tim at June 1, 2009 7:20 AMI answered Nancy on this issue on Kmareka.I have to say she is more likely to give a serious and reasoned response than the RI Future people.I guess pro-choice is one of her causes.I am a pro-life person,not based on any religious principle,just that killing an unborn child is a horrible act unless it is done to protect the life of the mother.
Posted by: joe bernstein at June 1, 2009 7:21 AM“Whoever murdered George Tiller has done a gravely wicked thing. The evil of this action is in no way diminished by the blood George Tiller had on his own hands. No private individual had the right to execute judgment against him. We are a nation of laws. Lawless violence breeds only more lawless violence.” - Robert P. George, Princeton U. Prof.
Seeing some of the comments on the web (ie. Nancy Green, etc.), it's amazing how fast the word "terrorism" re-enters their vocabulary...
Posted by: Brian at June 1, 2009 10:21 AMYou gotta love these loser liberals who have the morality of an amoeba. Now, all of a sudden they are crying about the merits of the democratic process. Well, Nancy the liberal, might well do us all a favor and enlighten the gays in California of the need to respect the "democratic process."
Posted by: Mike Cappelli at June 1, 2009 10:40 AMFrom 2to1, via rifuture,
"... Dr. Tiller's life and his many contributions to women's reproductive health care."
Do these people actually believe this? Its hard to avoid Godwin when murdering a viable fetus is equated with health care ...
Posted by: para at June 1, 2009 11:20 AMJustin has in the same couple of days defended Westboro Baptist Church and a domestic terrorist. Great work.
Posted by: Pat Crowley at June 1, 2009 11:49 AMJustin has in the same couple of days defended Westboro Baptist Church and a domestic terrorist.
Reading Comprehension: you're doing it.... not at all, actually.
Posted by: EMT at June 1, 2009 4:10 PM... wait, didn't we excise the word "terrorist" from the English language?
Posted by: Monique at June 1, 2009 4:16 PMSpeaking of great work I'd like to personally thank Pat aka Ducky aka Bunny Crowley for confronting the Phelps family the other day..... "One even had a pink bunny suit on with “I Love Boys” written on his belly."
Posted by: Tim at June 1, 2009 6:08 PMGood job Bunny!!
I envy the power of the man who can call somebody a murderer time and time again on national television, then claim clean hands when the man actually is murdered.
Posted by: rhody at June 1, 2009 9:52 PMA sense of personal responsibility is so overrated, anyway.
Trust Women.
Posted by: Nancy Green at June 2, 2009 10:30 PMHow about the power of an Al Sharpton who can induce a mentally deranged man by the force of his rhetoric to murder seven innocent people?
Posted by: joe bernstein at June 3, 2009 8:22 AMO'Reilly was superfluous to what this guy did.he had a hsitory of violent extremism dating to the 90's.Calling someone a killer is legitimate if you believe they are.what you can't do is incite violence against someone.I seldom watch O'Reilly because he is obnoxious,but I can't believe he'd ever suggested that anyone should murder Tiller.
Nancy-I didn't notice any concern on your aprt about the young soldier gunned down at random by an American born Muslim convert.Hmmm?
It's too bad that both those assassins found it so easy to get guns.
Posted by: Nancy Green at June 3, 2009 9:00 PMIf you need to think that two young men, one killed and one injured by an armed man who attacked them unprovoked, don't matter to me then go ahead.
But it backs up the point that violent speech leads to violent action.