November 15, 2010
"I campaigned on it...I can't go back on a campaign pledge."
Marc Comtois
So says our governor-elect when talking about his pledge to revoke the E-verify Executive order. Hey, he's honest, right? I guess that means we can be sure that a 1% sales tax increase is coming. Yippee.
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E-verify brings out strange feelings in me.
I like the idea of blocking illegal immigrants from getting jobs... But I don't like the idea of a government database adding a layer between 'everyone' and 'their next job'.
I had to fill out an I-9 for the last few jobs I had. Doesn't this essentially accomplish the same thing?
Does e-verify prevent the general contractor I retain from getting a couple of illegals to do the actual work, or keep the restaurant owners from paying their dishwashers in cash? I just don't see how it has any teeth. I don't think illegal immigrants are getting the kinds of jobs that employers file paperwork for.
Between this, the Social Security Number privacy/banking fiasco, welfare fraud, and the need to digitize medical records, I think it might be time for Uncle Sam to issue biometric identification to citizens, and make it mandatory to report wages against your unique ID. The overhead of the cards would be made up for in eliminating things like I-9 and e-verify, and also by reducing the number of frauds and cheats out there.
Posted by: mangeek at November 15, 2010 3:35 PMTalk about a callous comment. Anybody still believe in the Mr. Rogers image of Governor Elect.
Posted by: G-Man at November 15, 2010 3:35 PMmangeek-I-9's are useless-no proof of eligibility to work is required and the information provided is not required to be verified,ok?
Posted by: joe bernstein at November 15, 2010 5:01 PMDo you really want another state employee like the registry clerk who was a wanted ICE fugitive with a criminal history who was selling valid licenses to crimianl aliens for $6000 apiece?
Do you want state contractors and vendors to hire illegals?
More important-do you want to scrap the 287(g) crosstraining program between ICe and the dept.of Corrections and State Police?That Federal program provides high quality training to enhance the professionalism of the interagency cooperation.
That program targets alien criminals,legal and illegal.It doesn't target floor waxers.
It also REDUCES the chances of unjustified "profiling"by educating the officers.
So-please tell me how this is wrong?
Chafee actually doesn't know what he's babbling about.Nothing new there.
Anyone who voted for him is foolish.
Joe, valid points, but can you explain more about eVerify? Let's say I'm an employer and I want to hire someone. How do I use it? Is it just a web site that I check? Is it somewhere that I have to enter a valid name/SSN combination? Let's say I want to hire the Guatemalan kid for $4 an hour to wash dishes. So I tell eVerify that I hired my wife to do it and I enter her info. How does that get caught?
(not being snippy, I really don't know how it works)
Posted by: Patrick at November 15, 2010 5:42 PMLet's say I want to hire the Guatemalan kid for $4 an hour to wash dishes. So I tell eVerify that I hired my wife to do it and I enter her info. How does that get caught?
(not being snippy, I really don't know how it works)
Posted by Patrick at November 15, 2010 5:42 PM
Posted by: Phil at November 15, 2010 6:59 PMAlways knew you had larceny in your heart. Check with Depetro about how his wife had six adults filling out Arbitron rating books in their household. He could give some tips on being a weasel. The Bad Phil
mangeek-until humans are perfect souls we will always have fraud and deceit,but e-Verify is a means to reduce the problem as opposed to totally eradicating it.Also,many illegal aliens won't want to even try defeating the system.
Posted by: joe bernstein at November 16, 2010 8:15 AME-verify requires a name and SS# match.
There is no racial/ethnic information supplied and it applies to EVERYONE.Fair enough?
The LEAST likely people to have a problem with a "no-match"are legal aliens and naturalized citizens because they all have a lifetime "A"number which can resolve mis-identity issues instantly through the CIS(Immigration Services)records system.
The mosy likely to have a problem?Married women who didn't notify SS of their married name.
I receive Social Security and their system is as good as can reasonably be expected.
The objections to E-verify are generated by identity politics and ethnic pimps who gain influence with weak minded politicians like Chafee.
Linc's election did not represent a mandate by any stretch...so he wants to keep his promise to 36% of the people as opposed to the 74% who opposed him? By his logic, we should abolish all of our speeding laws since people still speed and get killed so the laws are obviously not effective. He's dense and so are the 36% who voted for him.
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