There was a court case concerning the AG's latitude in issuing permits. The ruling was that the AG has wide discretion in his decision in part because 11-47-11 was a shall issue for the police chiefs (not always the chief but it's an acceptable shorthand) so the plaintiff had other avenues to pursue a permit. Should this end run make into law I'd give it months if not weeks before it's in the courts.

"May" provisions are essentially treated like they don't exist by the courts. They are optional and therefore don't provide any obligations whatsoever. This would be a huge change.

(a) No person shall, without a license or permit issued as provided in §§ 11-47-11, 11-47-12 and 11-47-18, carry a pistol or revolver in any vehicle or conveyance or on or about his or her person whether visible or concealed, except in his or her dwelling house or place of business or on land possessed by him or her or as provided in §§ 11-47-9 and 11-47-10.

My property is divided by streets. Can I cross the streets without a permit?

(a) No person shall, without a license or permit issued as provided in §§ 11-47-11, 11-47-12 and 11-47-18, carry a pistol or revolver in any vehicle or conveyance or on or about his or her person whether visible or concealed, except in his or her dwelling house or place of business or on land possessed by him or her or as provided in §§ 11-47-9 and 11-47-10.

My property is divided by streets. Can I cross the streets without a permit?

The safety test given by DEM for which a "blue card"is issued is not hard to pass-but get this-after 25 years in law enforcement during which I was armed and 4 1/2 years active duty in the military,I needed to get a "blue card" after I retired in order to buy a handgun-that is just stupid.

The democrats on the Exeter town council just voted to deny local permitting for CCW and send all people from that area to the AG's office. Incremental removal of your second amendment rights has begun in earnest...

I guess there are other people, besides me, in tin foil hats.

"On Wednesday, Sen. Mike Lee (R-Utah) took to the Senate floor and warned that universal background checks could lead to a national registry system for guns.
"Some of the proposals, like for example- universal background checks- would allow the federal government to surveil law-abiding citizens who exercise their Constitutional rights. One of the provisions we expect to see in the bill based on what we saw in the Judiciary Committee- on which I sit- would allow the Attorney General of the United States (Eric Holder) to promulgate regulations that could lead to a national registry system for guns. Something my constituents in Utah are very concerned about, and understandably so," said Sen. Lee.

Lee also said that the government has no place monitoring the legal exercise of any Constitutional right a citizen chooses to exercise:

"You see, the federal government has no business monitoring when or how often you go to church; what books and newspapers you read; who you vote for; your health conditions; what you eat for breakfast; and the details of your private life-- including your lawful exercise of your rights protected by the Second Amendment and other provisions of the Bill of Rights."

Posted by Mike678: "The democrats on the Exeter town council just voted to deny local permitting for CCW and send all people from that area to the AG's office. Incremental removal of your second amendment rights has begun in earnest..."

Mike, you may be right. But, I suspect a "transfer of potential liability". For better, or worse, I am sure the AG's office will assign a low priority.

Mississippi Gun deaths per 100,000: 18.3
Arizona Gun deaths per 100,000: 15.3
Alaska Gun deaths per 100,000: 17.6
Arkansas Gun deaths per 100,000: 15.8

Connecticut Gun deaths per 100,000: 4.3
Rhode Island Gun deaths per 100,000: 3.5
Massachusetts Gun deaths per 100,000: 3.6
Hawaii, Gun deaths per 100,000: 2.8

"if it appears that the applicant has good reason to fear an injury to his or her person or property"

Rhetorical question, but whatever happened to the rights lie with the people and it's the gov's duty to show cause to strip that right?

Sammy - How many gun deaths per 100,000 in the great liberal cities of New York? Baltimore? Washington, DC? Yeah, that's what I thought. Begone, troll.

The Second Amendment has been perverted into something the founding fathers would be appalled by today

I for one look forward to the repeal of the 2nd Amendment

CITATION...www.huffingtonnews.com
"The father of a six-year-old Newtown massacre victim was heckled and shouted down by dozens of gun-nut audience members during a hearing by the Gun Violence Prevention Working Group. Neil Heslin pleaded in his emotional testimony for lawmakers to improve mental health options and ban assault weapons like the one Adam Lanza used to murder his son Jesse,and 19 other first graders and six adults. "I still can't see why any civilian, anybody in this room in fact, needs weapons of that sort. You're not going to use them for hunting, even for home protection," Heslin said

Why do righties hate freedom of speach?

Warrington,

There is no liability to the towns/cities--the law is specific on that fact. It's one reason why these localities, I suspect, are must issue--if they had discretion, then that could open them up to lawsuits...

As to our favorite troll, it is interesting to note that of the ~30,000 deaths by firearms last year, 20,000 were suicides. Additionally, there were more deaths due to drug overdoses. Yet progressives want to liberalize drugs. Go figure...

Sammy - It is literally impossible for a private individual to violate one's "freedom of speech." The First Amendment is a limitation on government. Why do you hate logic? I repeat: begone, troll.

"Both the “may issue” in the Attorney General’s permitting process, and the additional requirements of need and suitability needed to reach the “shall issue” stage in the local process may need reevaluation ..."

Rep Chippendale was on the Helen Glover Show yesterday morning. He said that he told the RI Attorney General that if this bill becomes law, it will almost certainly trigger a lawsuit because it violates Rhode Island's Constitution, mainly for the reason that Andrew cites: it would change "shall" to "may" issue a permit.

Rep Chippendale said that the AG's reaction to the prospect of such a lawsuit was "Oh well". I'm happy to be corrected if this was not an exact quote by the AG. In view of his presence at that press conference, however, this is clearly his attitude about the bill and the potential of a constitutional challenge.

Isn't an AG supposed to uphold and enforce the law? Is there any more weighty or significant law than our Constitution?

New Hampshire Attorney General - Graduate of Tier 1 Law School

Massachusetts Attorney General - Graduate of Tier 1 Law School

Vermont Attorney General - Graduate of Tier 1 Law School

Connecticut Attorney General - Graduate of Tier 1 Law School

New York Attorney General - Graduate of Tier 1 Law School

Rhode Island Attorney General - Graduate of Tier 4 (bottom-tier) Law School

Mike 678: "Warrington,

There is no liability to the towns/cities--the law is specific on that fact."

Mike, I didn't mean "strict liability". I meant finger pointing at an unpaid, or low paid, board if they issued a permit to someone who later went nutty. They have nothing to lose by passing off responsibility. Their constituents might not see it that way.

Warring ton,

If all were concerned about finger-pointing, nothing would get done. Do people point fingers at the DMV when they give a license to a person who then drives intoxicated? That kills a family of 5 driving the wrong way on the interstate? No...because they give a license to all that meet a standard set by the state..shall issue.

Mike 678: "Do people point fingers at the DMV when they give a license to a person who then drives intoxicated? That kills a family of 5 driving the wrong way on the interstate? No...because they give a license to all that meet a standard set by the state..shall issue."

Mike if the media got ahold of such an incident as you mention and "searched for answers" as they did with the Sandy Hook incident, there would be a lot of finger pointing. Truth is, such incidents are viewed as "normal" and unavoidable. Relative to someone who uses a gun, drivers with multiple DUI offenses get a slap on the wrist.

Small town boards receive no credit for things that "go right" and a lot of grief for things that "go wrong". They are largely unpaid and have no appetite for grief.

Please don't misunderstand my position on this matter, still it is the government we have. People who essentally volunteer to serve on boards do not want any "issues".

Sammy:

I for one look forward to your party making that abolition part of its platform.

What about this section: § 11-47-10 License or permit not required to carry to target range. – No license or permit shall be required for the purpose of carrying or transporting any pistol or revolver from one's home or place of business to a bona fide target practice range, nor from a bona fide target practice range to one's home or place of business, to engage in any shoot meet, or practice, provided that the pistol or revolver is broken down, unloaded and carried as openly as circumstances will permit, or provided that the pistols or revolvers are unloaded and secured in a separate container suitable for the purpose.

What about this section: § 11-47-10 License or permit not required to carry to target range. – No license or permit shall be required for the purpose of carrying or transporting any pistol or revolver from one's home or place of business to a bona fide target practice range, nor from a bona fide target practice range to one's home or place of business, to engage in any shoot meet, or practice, provided that the pistol or revolver is broken down, unloaded and carried as openly as circumstances will permit, or provided that the pistols or revolvers are unloaded and secured in a separate container suitable for the purpose.

" 11-47-11 says local authorities "shall issue" a concealed carry permit, once need has been demonstrated (though making determinations of criteria like "need" and “suitability” are left entirely to the municipal authority)…"

Permits under 11-47-11 do not require showing "need". The statute requires a "good reason to fear injury..." OR "has any other proper reason".

The "OR" is important. In Mosby v. Devine (RI Supreme Court, 2001), Judge Flanders stated in his opinion that being an avid gun collector was a "proper reason" to be licensed. I believe that sets a fairly low standard for a proper reason.

Are we free human beings or not?

Our right to defend our lives,our families,our property,our state and our country with firearms or whatever weapons necessary are inherent. That's the deal.

Those are protected rights. And even if the people in the gov. says we don't have those rights,we still do.

Gosh,my typing. Sorry. Says should be say.

Sammy,those who died in the Ct. massacre had their right to life ,liberty and the pursuit of happiness utterly destroyed because the Second Amendment promised,contractual right of the adults charged with the children's care was egregiously violated.

Here's a personal story about our state's prohibitions on self defense.

I'm a grandmother with some health issues. Several years ago,I was in my favorite supermarket's parking lot just after noon on a sunny nice day.

The store had a sale going on and I wanted to take advantage of it,so I had numerous bags in my cart as I loaded them into my car.

I'm fussy about how I pack in my groceries,worried that nothing will get dented or squashed so I was distracted.

Well, at one point I turned and there was a young man holding up two of my bags. I didn't hear him come up behind me and there he stood holding two of my bags up with a weird little grin on his face.

He said he worked for the store and he was there to help me. I had never had anyone do that before or since.

I glanced around and saw no one in sight and I was scared. He was creepy and didn't have on store ID.

When I got home I was still so unnerved that I looked up self defense on the internet.

Almost all of the experts said to carry a little spray thing of pepper
spray. But that's illegal here. You see it could be used by criminals against intended victims or against police.

That's what they told us when they made it illegal.

State Constitutions can expand protections of the people's rights,but never restrict. State Constitutions must harmonize with the Federal. For example,a state can't put in a Constitutional amendment legalizing involuntary servitude without due process.