When Conservatives Want to Talk
This comment from Greg, in conversation with Old Time Liberal, is surprising in the degree to which he sets aside incisive surety for a conservative’s spin on the mushy milieu of liberal emotivism:
I love to engage in raucous political debate with people from the other side of the fence. In person (Blogs I mostly hate for the obvious reasons). In person you can yell and rant and I can yell back and rant and we can both throw party lines at each other until we’re blue in the face.
And once the bloviating is over we can get to the meat of the issues. And more often than not we can come to an agreement on MOST things. I want fewer welfare recipients. You want low-cost tuitions. I say we PAY for four years of schooling and that person gives us back two years of CIVILIAN (military if they want) service and sign off that they aren’t eligible for welfare ever. You say ten years. I say twenty. We come to an agreement. It means squat but we’re talking. And we’re finding solutions we’re both happy about or are at least both equally unsatisfied with.
Obama wants this conversation to be happening about everything. He wants to get past the rancor and childish stupidity that has taken over politics in the last 20 years. Can it work? I dunno. But I’ll give his way a shot. And if he blows it I’ll vote him out in four years. God knows he can’t F-it up anymore than Captain Cuckoo-Bananas and his idiot cabal are right now.
I want to be part of that ‘new’ tone. I’m tired of hating liberals. I’m tired of being hated as a conservative. I want to be an American again and for that to MEAN something.
What have I missed that has so persuaded Greg that Obama truly wants to have such conversations? Oh sure, he wants to be pegged as having such desires. He’s got the far-left locked, he’s been leveraging identity politics and labor promises to secure the Democrat mainstream, and he and his handlers have been sufficiently shrewd to recognize that much of the Republican base that is fed up with Bush also has never really liked McCain. So they’ve cooked up this “change you can believe in,” “yes we can” drivel, and they’ve conducted the campaign masterfully. But where is the proof that Obama absorbs the arguments of the other side and adjusts his own positions accordingly?
Greg doesn’t seem to care that Obama would shake his hand, thank him for the good conversation, and then go back to his office and expand the size and reach of government in every direction, right down to dictating that small businesses give a certain amount of time for employees to skip out for children’s activities. (That’s a worthy idea as a benefit, but it isn’t the federal government’s place offer it on behalf of businesses.)
It seems to me that one of the main things that righties such as Greg (and me) detest about W. is his tendency to listen to the other side so much that he winds up taking their positions half the time. The change that Obama would bring is to make a show of listening, but then to charge hard in the wrong direction. And he’ll likely have the benefit of two congressional houses’ being controlled by his party.