False Denials of Comparison Between Roads and Families
In further proof of his lax moral standards,* it took Mangeek too long to read my post responding to one of his recent comments for his own response to attract much attention, so I’ll reprint it here:
… what I’m trying to say, Justin, is that I think conservatives (for the most part) are finding all the wrong explanations for why things are the way they are…
I can put a dollar-value on the per-pound impact of the weight of a car on roads. It’s a direct cause-and-effect relationship that allows large vehicle drivers to externalize part of the societal costs they are responsible for onto those of us who live more modest lifestyles.
Meanwhile, while you can draw correlations between marital status and costs on society, I’m not sure they’re cause-and-effect. In any case, we already ‘reward and punish things we like/dislike’ via different tax rates on married people, homeowners, business owners, and trust-fund kids.
Maybe society would be better-served overall if families were encouraged to (for example) drive safer, more efficient, and less costly vehicles (or buy smaller homes, or not take out $BIG student loans, etc.) than if we mandated which gender and legal configurations they were allowed to be. Just Sayin’.
It’s important to note that my post was in reaction to his questioning the necessity of moral judgment in society. In the above, he does little more than agree that he’s got no problem with the practice in concept, just on the particulars.
But on those particulars, his argument is clearly flawed. As a point of fact, he cannot “put a dollar-value on the per-pound impact of the weight of a car on roads.” He could, perhaps, put such a value on the effects of a specific car under very narrow circumstances, but it could hardly accurately describe the different usages of the actual people he’d like to tax.
Let’s say Joe drives a vehicle with a heavy curb weight — some kind of SUV — but he hardly ever puts additional weight inside it (after all, he’s only 120 lbs), and he only drives it a quarter mile each morning and afternoon before he is across his city’s border and therefore off the roads for which he’s ostensibly being taxed. Meanwhile, 400 lb Bob has a much lighter curb-weight car, but he typically drives it filled to brimming with books and other heavy objects; moreover, his routine calls for him to drive it 10 miles each way across the town in which he lives.
And that’s before we get into their driving styles. Joe takes it easy, while driving, and tries to slow down for intersections over greater distances. Bob is heavy on the gas pedal and the brakes, very often peeling out when starting and skidding when stopping.
In short, Mangeek cannot present his moral preference as a clear transfer of cost in a cause-effect relationship. Indeed, work in all of the relevant variables and defining the cost of cars by their weight isn’t much different than attributing costs to divorce and out-of-wedlock births. All else being equal, I’ve no doubt that heavier vehicles exact more of a toll on the roads, but the same can be said of broken families.
Nowhere is Mangeek’s skewed comparison more clear than in his closing. We aren’t comparing a soft “encouragement” of vehicle types to a stiff penalty against particular relationships. Quite the opposite is true: He wants to exact a penalizing tax against owners of larger vehicles, while he objects to mere recognition of a family type that still ought to be considered to be ideal.
* Note: This opening phrase is tongue in cheek.