Re: The Direction of Imposition
I’ve been at a loss as to how to respond to the comments to my post this morning about the Cranston school prayer banner, because those who advocate for the removal of the banner are so extreme in their beliefs (even those who are typically reasonable and moderate in their approach) that they appear to lack any sense of proportion or capacity for compromise on this issue. Fortunately, Mangeek has phrased the position in a way that facilitates my response:
I’m an atheist dues-paying member of a conservative Christian church (figure that one out).
It would be one thing if there was a prayer/religious group in the school that met weekly and put something like this up in their ‘wall space’, but it’s not. When a school itself puts a banner up that starts with ‘Heavenly Father’, it’s an overt endorsement of religion, and it gives people like me the willies.
I’ve also been omitting the (recent) McCarthyist addition of ‘Under God’ line from the pledge since I was twelve. When I was a scout leader, I made an effort to drop the ‘God stuff’ from our various daily oaths and sayings. I also allowed my scouts who weren’t religious to stay back at the campsite during mandatory ‘religious hours’ at Yawgoog so we could engage in somber, silent reflection of the week’s successes and failures.
Keep in mind, I’m in no way anti-religious, I’m anti-authoritarian, and putting ‘heavenly father’ banners up, adding ‘God’ to a pledge spoken at the opening of school, and mandating religious service attendance at camp all fall under the ‘authoritarian’ category for me.
You want religion in school? Fine, have it from students on the same terms that groups meet to discuss the environment or school governance, but keep it firmly separated from school administration.
By what conceivable measure is it possible to see the first of the following as more authoritarian than the second?
- A local school committee, with the apparent backing of a majority of town residents, keeping in place a banner that has been with the school since the very beginning, even though it hails from a time when it was acceptable to urge prayer in public
- A national advocacy organization (and certain commenters from Pawtucket, Providence, Arizona, and other places that are not the town in question) trying to use the expense of legal action as a means of bullying the district into taking the banner down on the grounds that a handful of residents do or might object to it
I’m especially confused about how Mangeek could choose the former as more authoritarian because he also believes it’s authoritarian for a religiously founded private group (the Boy Scouts) to require prayers and attendance at some kind of religious service).